machinemades Posted September 12, 2014 Report Share Posted September 12, 2014 Hansel, After looking more closely I am sure they all are Akro Sparklers. These look to contain more earth colors than more typical ones, which would be the reason Mike might thought they are Sunbursts. Best regards, Sami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'llhavethat1 Posted September 12, 2014 Report Share Posted September 12, 2014 The style is what I'm after, assuming Akro made sparklers and Master M made sunbursts. Ok good, for a second I wondered if there was such a thing as an Akro Sunburst. To me, logic dictates that if it's an Akro box, in that sort of condition, majority of the marbles should still be Akro. (I know I know, somebody could have just back filled the ones in question, and then added some authentic Agates as a red-herring) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted September 12, 2014 Report Share Posted September 12, 2014 Actually I believe them to all be Akro Agate Sparklers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdesousa Posted September 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2014 Hansel, After looking more closely I am sure they all are Akro Sparklers. These look to contain more earth colors than more typical ones, which would be the reason Mike might thought they are Sunbursts. Best regards, Sami Sami, So that we might learn from your expertise, what are you seeing in the marbles that makes you sure they are all sparklers? (Especially since several experienced collectors are calling at least some of them sunbursts.) Thanks in advance, Hansel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdesousa Posted September 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2014 most accept 4+ colors ... very clear glass in parts of the marble ... vibrant, strong colors ... white wispy-stringy ribbons ... as sparklers. in general, sunbursts .. lack in most of the attributes of a sparkler. not as many colors ... duller in apperance ... altho, some are up to debate with akro. exceptions in both makers ....... bill Thanks Bill. But "exceptions in both makers" confounds positive identification, a least for my undiscerning eye. Hansel Hansel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machinemades Posted September 12, 2014 Report Share Posted September 12, 2014 Hansel, I am not an expert in anything. However the marbles in your box have Sparkler configuration with similar colors of Sunbursts which typically have more earth color whisps. Both types were made with similar sort of injection machinery that I have read about and similar looks. Cutlines are somewhat different and Sparklers typically have clear base glass versus Sunbursts have transparent amber, yellow, brown, green, red etc. base glass. Backlight your marbles and I bet they all have clear base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted September 12, 2014 Report Share Posted September 12, 2014 FWIW, they all look like Akros to me. I got hung up on the "Sparkler" part - not too sure about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mibcapper Posted September 12, 2014 Report Share Posted September 12, 2014 Thanks Bill. But "exceptions in both makers" confounds positive identification, a least for my undiscerning eye. Hansel Hansel your welcome ... my problem with trying to type and make my thoughts understood with this computer... is not my cup of tea. in hand ... is the best way for me to distinquish differances. either way on the sparklers .... an outstanding akro box you have. bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTAndrea Posted September 12, 2014 Report Share Posted September 12, 2014 Love it. We used to have endless discussions and arguments over what constitutes a sparkler or a sunburst. I propose we simply call this type a sparkburst. Or a sunspark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orbboy Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 All look Akro to me. Wanna trade that awesome quad wrapped light blue Onyx for a double twister haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdesousa Posted September 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 Hansel, I am not an expert in anything. However the marbles in your box have Sparkler configuration with similar colors of Sunbursts which typically have more earth color whisps. Both types were made with similar sort of injection machinery that I have read about and similar looks. Cutlines are somewhat different and Sparklers typically have clear base glass versus Sunbursts have transparent amber, yellow, brown, green, red etc. base glass. Backlight your marbles and I bet they all have clear base. Thanks Sami. The distinction between a clear base vs a colored base is something even I can grasp! regards, Hansel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 must not must not must not must not mention clear base on earliest sunbursts must not must not must not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 It's hard to see but when backlighted the base of these Master sunbursts have clear uncolored glass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 The very earliest Sunbursts had clear bases -- the Tiger Eye styles. But I'm still confident Hansel's are Akro. http://marbleconnection.com/topic/6684-mostly-pix-master-made/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spara50 Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 Sparklers. All the marbles in the box are Akro except the agates. Can't see why a few sunbursts would be in with them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1DanS Posted September 15, 2014 Report Share Posted September 15, 2014 Dan, Thanks for the reply. Can you say what about the marbles makes you think they are all sunbursts? Hansel At first look, the duller, more muted colors, made me think Sunbursts. Although that might be a Sparkler in the top row. Taking a second look, that is a rather strange assortment and arrangement of marbles for an Akro box. Even with the larger corks, the non blue/red ones seem to be out-of-place to me. No expertise, just an opinion. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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