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Agree on the above. At one point there was a good reference guide/pic on the site that showed different styles of pontils (or cutoffs) on marbles like this. The one on the right is a less common color compared to most of the other ones I've seen.

lol, Ron and I were thinking the same thing at the same time. I should go buy a lottery ticket!

Yeah, that's another can of worms. Some of the opaque Indians with a black base appear a deep "translucent" purple base when you shine a light through. If it's clearly translucent without strong light (like your pic) I would consider it to be something other than the Indian category, but that's just my opinion

Size can sometimes be a way, along with color. A pontil or prominent cut-off can also help narrow things down. Anything beyond that is a bit of a crapshoot

If they made slags in that size it would make sense that other styles could also be made (although I can't say I've seen any) Did the eBay link get updated? It's now saying 41/64 and mimic art glass in the title. Don't remember if it was like that before

What about KerPlunk?

By 'Vaseline' are we talking about the color alone? Or does it need to react to UV? Would love to see some pics.

lol

I recall seeing similar, with what can sometimes be interpreted as a phallic "pole" but I think they were bears and not lions.

I wouldn't want to be the guy grinding/faceting peewee agates by hand, no thanks

I would have taken a gamble, looks like some interesting ones in the group. $607 seems a bit steep without seeing more detail perhaps whoever put in that bid asked some questions or had a look.

lol, yeah I remember those days.

So no other pics available when the auction was running? Bottom right looks interesting

I'm with you on that, sweet marble. Lots of action going on there

Nice popeye score. Really falling for the last one too.

OK, hard to notice and probably a glass formulation thing but finally got a pic of it . One of my favorites

UV nine, only one I've seen

If you focus on the construction more than the colors (and really simplify things) you could draw a similarity that sunbursts and onionskins both have a "pole" at either end, and streaks of color running from pole to pole. That might be over simplified for some people, lol.

Trying new photo host. See if this works (9's on bottom row)

A while back I had a pic of Akro patch "run" that went from a pattern of green/white/rust to green/white/oxblood to show variety. See if I can find it outside of photobucket.

Common pattern and color combo for this type. The 'nine' pattern is characteristic of hand gathered marbles. Top left pic shows the cutoff. A member here spent a lot of time looking at these types and trying to characterize the cutoffs, but I don't think it ever really narrowed down manufacturer or origin. It was still an interesting study though. From my experience they are more often found in collections/groups originating from Europe or Canada (compared to US), and mostly ~5/8" size. Of course, there are going to be exceptions to both these points. Hope this helps

Wow, there's a few handles haven't heard of in a while. Always good to see your posts RAR.

Thanks for insights Alan. I'll stick with my opinions/thought process, just as I'm sure you will yours. That's fine. No conclusion was reached on my part, just random thoughts for discussion. However, based on your logic, do you think the other two examples mentioned in this thread are also 'not right'? Do you think they were made earlier than my estimate? Are all marble makers able to handle marbles/canes/tools with the same level of expertise?

it doesn't appeal to me the way $9K does, but it's all subjective. re: pontil, flat spots, condition, etc: agree that there are a few things that are unusual (making it an unusual marble). Some of the later German handmades don't have the same fit & finish on the pontils as the earlier ones. I 'm saying later due to the bold colors. There aren't too many examples of later ones I've seen in this size Big marbles like this would be hard to handle and tongs could have been used, unfortunately making indentations or flat spots. The large size (mass) is also prone to deforming, cold rolls etc. My understanding is a wooden tool was sometimes used to make it more of a sphere which helps the shape but not the low areas like cold rolls and indentations. I've got no skin in this game so merely my 2 cents for what it's worth

That sounds a bit scary, hope they pack everything well so nothing gets damaged