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Agreed, Vacor.

To me the quest for information and building the mental database is a big part of the lure. Being over there and finding so many of these, I would be tempted to look into and ask around about marble companies in your part of the world. Not everything is known about them. Winnie was a marble fanatic (RIP) from your part of the world who was a valuable resource, went out and did the digging and came up with provenance about the wirepulls, attributing them to Veilligglas, and some other European marble info. That work is still unfinished IMO, as we don't know where the majority of your marbles came from. The reason nobody can tell you who made them is we don't know. If you can find out what company made them and where it was, they will suddenly have more collectability simply because they can be attributed to something/someone/somewhere. Right now these types are in people's mystery boxes with no info. I said on another forum that I thought they were foreign to the US and somewhat resembled Akros and Vitros but that they were off enough that I had to go with foreign. Never said they were "fake".

Holy cow!! Love that Master box! The vitros are nice too but some super masters in there! Nice boxes!

I've been thinking these marbles shown lately are likely foreign too but I don't know who made them. They are similar enough to Akros and Vitros to make me consider them as a maker but off enough that I don't think they are.

On those swirls Steph, after talking with some others, I do think the simple swirls were accidental. Apparently if the marble machine gets out of alignment with the tank, the stream drags on one side and causes it to fold, making the simple swirl pattern. With all the machinery moving, the machine can vibrate out of place a little and start making swirls. The operator notices and knocks it back in place again. Whether or not that's what happened with the more involved swirls, I don't know. Just wanted to correct my previous thoughts, don't want to spread bad info.

Yes, Bogard made cateyes that look nearly identical to peltier bananas. Lots of green ones especially.

Some more. Love the opalescent almost "moonie" type base ones with the brown, such contrast. I think the green banana cat eye in green glass is likely Bogard. Don't miss the AV vanes in that other cateye.

I agree, JABO, JABO, Alley, Vacor, JABO.

Agreed, the wirepulls alone are worth more than that for sure! The cork I agree is not Akro, it's a transitional.

Lol posted at the same time Josh!

Vitro and Peltier made patch and ribbon types of marbles, this is a swirl type, so you can pretty much eliminate those makers although Peltier did make some swirls back in the 30s that are usually pretty distinct. At that size I would suspect JABO and Alley. I don't see any strong Alley traits, I guess I'd go with JABO.

Knowing your location is in the Netherlands would help over here. The first one IMO is a Japanese figure 8. The rest I lose track.

Maybe a wonky foreign transitional?

Thank you!

Impressive on the Heaton call Chad, you got it. I would guess Alox on the amber clear swirl but tough to say with certainty.

I agree with Peltier. Nice one!

X2 but looking at those seams it shows just how similar they can be.

Yeah MK would be my call too.

I'm seeing a strandy green cateye.

Did you send an email to AAM via contact us? If so, send another to me personally or PM me with the information. Chad is the administrator and I know at the moment he is stretched thin and will be for a few weeks at least with the launch of a new enterprise and he may or may not respond as timely as I can. A lot of the old login names that were created in the system with no subsequent activity on the forum afterwards were erased if they were old enough. I guess they were spam bots and possibly failed attempts to join or log in. You might have to create a new account now with the new software but let me know and I can check. Sorry for the thread drift.

I agree with modern. Modern MK IMO.

Dang, nice one! I'd say Sistersville Alley.

Steph, AAM has been upgraded and all Kevin's old traps and hidden glitch stuff has been erased. You are welcome there with open arms, it took the hiring of a professional to get the site debugged from him. The last of him is gone and he is not a member nor is he allowed on the site. What was done nearly a decade ago is under the bridge and AAM now is a totally different place. Different look, and I and my wife and Scott LeGrande are moderators, Chad Kline is the site owner. Many who are regulars here are also regulars there. We should be one big family, no hard feelings and cliques. I send people to this site without reservation. It's about enjoying the hobby and moving it forward. If for some reason you try to join and can't, please let me know and I will make sure it is remedied.

I realize I made it sound like the black and white one is a type of halloween. I don't mean to imply that, but more that it is likely closely related (part of the family). It's a different black than the inkys and the like, different pattern too. I think they were run in close succession. Probably the contents of one of those boxes Ron, I agree.

Ok, so we know the orange and black Alley Halloween. Not common. Then there's the orange, black, and white model... many of us know that one too. But did you know there are other members of the family? There is a previously unknown orange, red, and black, and a black and white also. These are all part of the same find. The orange, white, and black type just sold on ebay for over $200 and is probably as rare as the Carnival. The orange, red, and black is even more rare. So far, these in the following photos are the only known examples. Check these out, all found together, part of the same find just shown in two groups. The last 4 photos being my marbles from this find. Ignore the single foreign shooter.